Saturday, 7 March 2009

Circular No 383





Newsletter for past alumni of The Abbey School, Mt. St. Benedict, Trinidad and Tobago, W.I.

Caracas, 7 of March 2009 No. 383

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Dear Friends,

Would like to remind you that we now have a website to serve us, by Kazim Abasali: www.ASAATT.org, please check it out.

I have prepared a Circular on Neil Trotman with the latest including his first contact, with interesting photos, specially on teachers.

If anyone can help out with Roland Sanchez, telf and email address?

I am also interested in Miguel Gonzalez well-being as his last contact was in 2003.

I have skype at the office: “KAVIACION”, and soon at home.

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From: NEIL TROTMAN

Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 8:10 AM

Hello Ladislao,

What would you like from me then, please let me know.

I will get some photos out and scan them, hopefully they will work.

Neil

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From: ladislaokertesz@hotmail.com

Date: Wed, 30 May 00:25:26 +0000

Dear Neil,

I have reserved Circular No. 293 , 16 June for your photos and information.

Now I have a better insight on the last days of the school.

God Bless

Ladislao

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From: NEIL TROTMAN neiltrotman@hotmail.com

Date: Mon, 28 May 22:00:14 +0000

Dear Ladislao,

Just in from work and great to get your email.

Raeburn, Guillen, Gonzalez etc were all class mates when we were at Mount together.

They were a year below me.

I was in Class with Garvin Gonzales and others like Gerald Dornellas who is cousin to Dornellas on the Alumni list.

I emailed Dornellas in connection with Kitty Marcus' 90th birthday, that is how I know this.

Now I am in touch with Jean van Leuwen who was secretary of the school with Kitty Marcus.

When I joined the Abbey school in 78, Jean used to teach Library science with Fr Edwards.

Am also in touch with Dr. Kathleen Phillips-Lewis (History teacher).

You can see lots of information about her on the web.

She is a distinguished historian and is working in Atlanta Georgia.

And the last teacher is Pamela Razack (nee Roopchand).

She is in Trinidad and was excited when I told her that I had come across your blog.

I have an old picture of my year taken by the then Abbot Hilderbrand Greene in the mid 80's.

Even have old report cards.

For the reunion I was sent pictures too and could easily send them too you by post if you would like.

Also have pictures of our trip to Bogota Colombia in 1984.

I think it is great talking about the Abbey School.

There were unpleasant memories and good memories too.

Did you know that when I started there was only one language available Spanish and that there was no Literature O'level available in the 4th/5th years?

I was so annoyed about that.

Hope that this finds you well and happy.

Neil

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From: ladislaokertesz@hotmail.com

Date: Mon, 28 May 12:00:18 +0000

Dear Neil,

What a surprise, an alumni of the 1980s.

I say that it is a surprise because you are the first to write about life at the mount in the 1980s.

The few, about 10 alumni that we know of, are poor writers.

From my calculations about 100 alumni passed through the school in the 1980s.

There are no photos neither names.

I am the "editor" of the Circular, basically I take your emails and photos and edit them.

It is a weekly affair when I have the time.

God Bless

Ladislao

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ladislao kertesz

Monday, May 28, 2007 8:36:47 AM

Dear Neil

I forgot to ask you for memorabilia of your years at the mount.

Reaburn sent in 8 names. but he has not written about school life or the names of the teachers.

Do you have the emails of your teachers, they can be added to the Circular mailing list.

God Bless

Ladislao

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From: NEIL TROTMAN neiltrotman@hotmail.com

Date: Mon, 28 May 07:58:27 +0000

Dear Sir,

Sorry to interrupt your day but I saw your name on the blog relating to Abbey School and I felt compelled to write to you.

I hope that you do not mind me writing to you?

But came across this bog yesterday.

I was at the Mount from 1978-1984.

I repeated form 5, I was not that brainy :-).

I see that you are in contact with John Raeburn well we were all around at the same time.

Barry (John) and his friends were in a year below me.

I left the abbey in 84 and returned to London the place of my birth in May 1985.

I must admit and I said the same thing to Don Mitchell that we at the Abbey School were the most privileged students.

It is always great to hear from other old mount boys irrespective of the time they were there.

What views, surroundings, facilities and what a great way to get learn and get yourself involved in the community at the mount.

Great fun.

Through the Abbey School we went to Caracas in 1980 for a week (with Fr Cuthbert and Bernard Lange) and to Bogota Colombia again for a week in 1984 (with Mrs Pamela Razack, Bro Ronald Yee Mon and other class mates like Garvin Gonzales).

It was fun.

I was unable to make the reunion in 2005 as it was my 40th birthday and so I had a big celebration with my partner and friends.

However Pamela Razack sent me lots of photos.

It was good seeing old faces and it was not nice remembering others.

But I keep in touch with my teachers Pamela Razack and Kathleen Phillips-Lewis.

I was very saddened when I heard that Mount closed down all those years ago.

I guess that we can thank Fr, Vincent Merrique the Principal at the time for that. (he subsequently left Mt St Benedict's got married and had 2 children) for that.

He maintained that Abbey School was for "rich white boys."

So go figure...................... with attitudes like that it is no wonder the place was closed down.

Died about two years ago.

The funeral service was held at the Abbey Mt St Benedict.

His sister was married to Peter Bynoe I believe the famous Architect but do not hold me to that.

But I have always maintained that we were all very privileged to have attended the Abbey School.

What a school, what views, what surroundings and what a wonderful community.

I did not know this at the time but when you have time to grow up and reflect truthfully then it becomes apparent.

Hope that you do not mind my interrupting your day.

Have a great day and take care.

Best wishes always

Neil

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From: NEIL TROTMAN

Sent: Thursday, May 31, 10:08 AM

Good morning Ladislao,

I sent some photos to you and Don but he could not view them so I resent them in jpeg format.

Did you get them and were you able to view them.

Anyway, please let me know what you want me to write about, just so that I have an idea of what to say for the next circular.

Kindest regards

Neil

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From: ladislaokertesz@hotmail.com

Date: Wed, 30 May 00:25:26 +0000

Dear Neil

I have reserved Circular No. 293 , 16 June for your photos and information.

Now I have a better insight on the last days of the school.

God Bless

Ladislao

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From: NEIL TROTMAN

Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 6:46 AM

Dear Don and Ladislao,

I have saved the photos in jpeg.

Did not even know that I could do that.

Hopefully this will be easy to open now.

Regards

Neil

PS in the one of Pamela, Lennox etc there is a small group of people at the back one guy with sun glasses on his head with a goatee beard, I believe that he is one of the Tardieur brothers.

I do not know if it is Charles or Jean Pierre.

Are you aware that JP died in a motor accident.

Very sad.

Çhe is Salvador Coscarart, ed.)

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From: NEIL TROTMAN (neiltrotman@hotmail.com)

Sent: Wed 7/25/ 10:00 PM

Dear Ladislao,

With regards to the class photo I can only give the names of those I remember.

I am unable to say what the activities were for the reunion as I was not there.

If you contact Miguel Gonzales he will be able to fill you in on all the activities who was there etc etc.

Neil

1 Robert Dayal,

2 Garvin Gonzales,

3 Mark Tang, (deceased),

4 Alex Almandoz,

5 ?,

6 ?,

7 ?,

8 Sampath,

9 Nigel Gill,

10 Rene Hosein,

11 ?,

12 Nigel Smart,

13 Bronte,

14 Lynch,

15 ?,

16 Lezama,

17 Andrew Arindell,

18 Dornellas,

19 Ashton Greer,

20 Peter Girod,

21 Keith Permy,

22 Neil Trotman,

23 Gerald Ramnath,

24 Kerry Castello,

25 Norman Pow,

26 ?

27 David Smart,

28 Ragoonanan,

29 ?

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From: NEIL TROTMAN (neiltrotman@hotmail.com)

Sent: Wed 9/26/07 9:40 PM

Dear Ladislao,

I see from some previous circulars sent earlier this year like just before summer that a few are trying to get the facilities at the mount in good working order again.

There is talk about corporate clientele being responsible for the upkeep of the facilities, that would be great if it could really work.

The light has gone out, no one cares and is only consumed with images of themselves that is all.

I had a great time up to a point at Mount.

If this refurbishment goes ahead and it brings the community together to bridge the social gap then great.

If it however, widens the gap then no that would not be good.

Good luck

Neil Trotman

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So now you have all the exchange and photos.

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That is for now, till the next one

78NT0001CLASS1980, photo by Neil Trotman

03NT0001REUNION2003, Garvin Gonzales, Leonard Abbott, Pamela Roopchand, Miguel Gonzales, Clinton Ross, Andres Lazzari, Arnold Lawrence.

05NT0002FOD, Fr. Odo.

07NT0003GRP, Jean van Leuwen, Ronald Sanchez, Pamela Razack, Lennox Seals.

Saturday, 28 February 2009

Circular No 382





Newsletter for past alumni of The Abbey School, Mt. St. Benedict, Trinidad and Tobago, W.I.

Caracas, 28 February 2009, No. 382

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Dear Friends,

I have SKYPE during office hours, see the GMT hours at the bottom of the Circular. Username “KAVIACION

Now something on GIRLS, St. Joseph´s Convent.

Read on:

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Glen Mckoy wrote:

Attila,

How many times, did they try to expel you ??

Your stories are amazing.

G#1

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Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008

From: gyuris@yahoo.com

Subject: Escapades with the monk's scooter

LOL:

Yeah but....That was only with girls at the St. Joseph's Girls Academy down the hill...

Where I would go play "Romeo" after stealing Fr. Gregory's or Fr. Hildebrand's Lambretta motor scooters at night after lights out...

Ask Frank Malaver about one incident, when I invited him along once for the adventure.

If once incident stands out better than others.....It is this one:

Sometime in 1968, I asked Frank Malaver if he was interested in coming with me to visit the girls at the Academy that night.

He thought for about 2 seconds and of course he was in.

So I briefed him on what to do and what to expect.

I could see he was a little bit worried, but not too much....yet.

We got up a few hours after lights out, and got dressed in all black clothes, then we sneaked out of the 3rd floor dormitory window and down the water pipe on the side of the building like cat-burglars.

Then down to the garage area, where the buses, cars and the scooters were parked.

The scooters were not locked and they could be started. (ahhh, those were the innocent days!)

So, we pushed the scooter down hill and bump-started it in second gear when sufficiently far from the monastery so they wouldn't hear us.

And down the hill we went with Frank Malaver hanging on for dear life behind me.

It had rained and the road was wet and we slipped out and slow-crashed in one of the curves after passing the swimming pool.

Nothing serious, just some scrapes and a scare, but then Frank got too scared and wanted to scrap the plan and return back up the hill.

I didn't want him to get more worried and I said OK,... let's go back.

As we were going back up the hill, just when we round the curves by the private houses that were just below the PAX Guesthouse we saw headlights! .

Oh shit...Next thing we see the headlights of this vehicle coming down the hill..

It was one of the VW minibuses from the Mount!.

Almost in panic we quickly parked the scooter on the side of the road in front of one of the private houses there, and dove head first into the bushes just as the minibus was driving by.

The bus stopped, backed up, a few minutes passed.

We kept our heads low, not daring to breathe!!!

The after a minute or two, the bus drove away.

We sighed in relief.

After waiting prudently for a few minutes to make sure the bus was gone, we remounted the scooter and, now with hearts pounding, drove it back and parked it in the same place it was before in the garage.

The whole episode took no more than maybe an hour, but I still remember it like it was yesterday.

We fully expected an investigation by the monks the next day, but never heard anything from the incident, and Frank and I swore to each other that we would not tell a soul about it.

Well I think the statute of limitations has about expired on this little caper by now, so finally I am telling.....

I always wondered what did the driver of the bus think after seeing the scooter belonging to a monk parked in front of this private house at 2 o'clock in the morning??? HMMMM

Attila Gyuris

Abbey School 1964-1969

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St.Joseph's Convent

Attila GYURIS

Friday, July 18, 2008

That Girl's Boarding school was located in the nearby village of St Joseph (just to the west of Tunapuna).

It was called St. Joseph's Convent, run by Nuns of the order of Sisters of St. Joseph.

I think that school still exists.

They used to cater heavily towards the Venezuelan students, just like the Abbey School did.

On occasion, in the middle of the night, I used to "borrow" Fr. Gregory's and or Fr. Ildephonse's Lambretta motor scooter at night and run down there to visit my girlfriend platonically through the window.

Her name was Jeanette and she was the sister of one of the Mount boys, Rudi Polderman.

Fulvio Cantore's wife, Paola, was also a boarding student there at the same time.

Attila Gyuris

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Glen Mckoy

Friday, July 18, 2008

Attila,

What is this platonically through the window thing yuh talking about, every time I mentioned girls before, the first thing you would ask is ' Did you get lucky', now yuh giving us this platonic excuse, well did you get lucky or what ?

I'm confused, now after all that work Attila, platonically waiting your reply,

Glen. ha! ha!

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RE: St.Joseph's Convent

Attila GYURIS

Friday, July 18, 2008

This was different.

No, I didn't get lucky with her..Just long looks, conversation, a few hugs and furtive kisses during the dances and fetes, that's all...

You know, "puppy love"...what can I say.

These night visits on the borrowed scooter to the school were just very chaste exchanges from a distance through the window.

Just like Romeo and Juliet used to do, HMMM... Oh boy, now I am turning red!

Didn't even try to go any further....

At that time we had this "honour system" double standard ...girlfriends you were in love with, were to be honoured and respected.

Besides, the Nuns were very vigilant for the honour of their girls at all times, so we had no opportunity for mischief either..

Also, she already had gotten in trouble because the nuns had found a bunch of my "love letters" to her.

(Good thing they didn't find HER replies!)

ER...Now the "Moon River" is whole other story. : - )

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salvador coscarart coscarartsalvador@hotmail.com

14 December 2008

Hello ladislao,

Long time since we made contact.

Well the names on the photo 03uno356grp the guys are from left to right .

Francis Pereira (khaki), Renny Villafana, Salvador Coscarart, Mr Lenox Seals (biology teacher at mount) in our days 67-74.

Saludos

Salvador Coscarart.

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Re 5191, the person on the right is me!! Jean de Meillac, can´t remember the other, he is a Venez who was over for the reunion.

Jean de Meillac

General Manager

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EagleMsi

Friday, January 16, 2009

Roger de Meillac

2855 SW 39th Ave

Miami Fl 33166

Tel # 305-323-6578 Cell

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From: Ladislao Kertesz [mailto:kertesz13@yahoo.com]

Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009

Dear Roger,

I am glad that you enjoy the Circulars.

Hope to send out No. 375 on Fr. Benedict Tomorrow.

Please tell me where you live, city and the telephone number.

Any Xmas photos??

God Bless

Ladislao

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From: EagleMsi eaglemsi@bellsouth.net

Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009

Hello Ladislao,

Many thanks for remembering to send me the circular.

I have really enjoyed reading them and remembering all the good times of the mount I was only their for two years,

I remember Fr Cuthbert and the scouts very well ,

Richard Anderson was my PL for those two years .

Peter & Christian Quesnel whose home in Maracas valley we used to visit ,

A Saturday walk up to white stones and down the other side into the valley ,

Peter´s mom would feed us a great meal and drop us back to the grounds in the afternoon.

Thanks again and wishing you and your Family all the best for 2009.

Regards

Roger de Meillac

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david decastro thecalypsobandit@hotmail.com

27 December 2008

Hi ladisloa and trevor,

I remember all the names you called and I even see my brother Delano--but no David de Castro

I guess I was so small no one seems to remember the weekly fights between myself and John Maingot arranged every week by the Darwent brothers.

In the picture I am No 76.

I was the youngest boy to go to mount.

I was 8 yrs old.

The year was 1944,

In the new year I have got to phone trevor and have a talk with him.

"the bandit" dave

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03SC0356REUNION2003, New names, Francis Pereira, Renny Villafana, Salvador Coscarart and Lennox Seals

61CF0013CDFSF, Cornel deFreitas at the Sports Field.

08UN0225REUNION2008, The Abbey School

56DA0001DAMSCOUT, new names in the SCOUT´s photo.

Saturday, 21 February 2009

Circular No 381





Newsletter for past alumni of The Abbey School, Mt. St. Benedict, Trinidad and Tobago, W.I.

Caracas, 21 February 2009, No. 381

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Dear Friends,

Relax and read on:

It is about smuggling, murder and a man named CARUPANO.

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In a message dated 7/14/2008 2:16:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

gyuris@yahoo.com writes:

Andres:

Yes, it is entirely possible.

There has always been a healthy smuggling trade between Trinidad and Venezuela across the straights.

And it will be there forever.

Back in the 60's it was contraband merchandise, today it is mainly drugs.

Smugglers, like pirates, as all criminals do, often readily kill-off each other even over petty grievances, It's not like they can take it to court.

More criminals die from being killed by their own colleagues-in-crime and enemies-in-crime than by law enforcement.

Attila Gyuris

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On Mon, 7/14/08, Andres Larsen <andres_larsen@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Andres Larsen
Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:01 AM

The smuggling environment would seem plausible as far as some turf war between mafias, should that have been the case.

Venezuelan smugglers would work with their Trini counterparts or would sometimes doublecross them, feuding with them.

A reason as to why "Carupano" moved to the Mount in the first place could perhaps also have been that he was on the lam from some arrest warrant issued by Venezuelan authorities.

The story about Enrique and his purported tryst with "Carupano's" maid might ring a bell with Raul, Fulvio or Gonzalo.

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Attila GYURIS

Monday, July 14, 2008 1:52:47 PM

Thanks Andres:

Yes I think I may have heard something like that too, but, then who knows?

Stories and wild speculation fly around.

You really jogged my memory about Enrique Gomez fooling around with this girl in the back of the house.

I had forgotten about that!.

I think it would be a good idea to send your addition to the story below to the others also, so maybe somebody else's memory gets jogged enough to remember, and perhaps add even more details.

Maybe we can solve this mystery yet!

Attila Gyuris

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On Mon, 7/14/08, Andres Larsen <andres_larsen@yahoo.com> wrote:

Subject: Murder Mystery at the Mount.

Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 10:30 AM

From what I heard back then "Carupano" was or had been a smuggler plying his trade across the Bocas del Dragon between Chaguaramas base and Guiria and Macuro.

Supposedly the crime had something to do with that, some squabble over undelivered goods, pricing or a payment to be made or collected.

Something along those lines.

I also heard "Carupano" had a young maid, don't recall if she was a local, but Enrique Gomez among some others would mess around with her in the back of the house of "Carupano" either while "Carupano" was there or absent.

Enrique passed away so there is no way now of confirming this second rumour.

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RE: Murder Mystery at the Mount.

Attila GYURIS

Monday, July 14, 2008 1:15:41 PM

Glen:

You are correct. It would be nice to put an end to this mystery.

Maybe somebody knows more than I do, and speaks up.

We can only speculate based on the little information we have, that's all.

"Carupano" was a really nice man to us all,

None of us ever had any problems with him.

He was missed by us all.

May God rest his soul.

Attila Gyuris

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Re: Murder Mystery at the Mount.

Rafael Echeverría

Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28:53 AM

Attila ...

THANK YOU MAN ! ... You can't imagine what an extraordinary support you are giving me with this story.

I am going a little slow though at this moment.

I completed seven chapters but I am stuck in trying to recapture the momentum of the avalanche of thoughts and memories that come to me.

Thank you Attila ... Thank You !!!

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Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:44:05 -0700

From: gyuris@yahoo.com

Subject: Murder Mystery at the Mount.

Hello Attila,

I wonder if that was the house Bassanta ended up living in ??

It could have been somebody wife he was messing with ??

It would be good to hear the real facts from Trinidad eh?

At this point we could assume anything.

Glen Mckoy.

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Attila GYURIS

Sunday, July 13, 2008 11:44:05 PM

OK, now to continue to my next instalment of my Abbey School stories:

(Some of you, especially the Venezuelan boys there during this time, may remember this story)

This is for Cheche's compilation of chronicles of the Mount.

Murder Mystery at the Mount.

Sometime during the years 1965 to 1967 there was an older man who was a Venezuelan retiree living in one of the small houses along the path leading down from the School to the Sports Field.

This small house was located on the right hand side just as you passed the PAX Guesthouse and you started downhill on the footpath.

I think it was either the first or the second little green cinder-block house on the right hand side of the path.

It had security iron bars on the windows,

In this house lived this older retired guy we called "Carupano".

We never knew his real name.

As we Venezuelan boys walked down to the sports field we would wave to him, and sometimes stop and talk to him in Spanish.

He was from the little fishing town of "Carupano" on the Eastern seashore of Venezuela.

He was always friendly to us and soon after he would invite us into his living room and we would play cards and dominoes instead of going down to the sports field.

We would have great joke telling and bullshit sessions.

Sometimes he would let us drink a little rum with honey,

We always had a good time there and we laughed a lot.

Many of the Venezuelan boys would stop and hang out there, sometimes ducking down to hide when one of the priests or school staff walked by.

It was a way to break the monotony of the school and to do something different.

Suddenly, there was a strict prohibition from Bobo and Cutty for the school boys to visit "Carupano's" house.

No reason given. Just could not go there any longer.

Some of the boys still went there to visit clandestinely anyway, just because it was "prohibited" and to be able to get away with it.

One day in the morning, the rumour began to spread in school:

"Have you heard what happened to the old man Carupano?"

" No ... What?"

"He was murdered!"

"No way!. really?"

So we went down that afternoon, as if going to the sports field and, sure enough, the house was cordoned-off with several police officers standing outside.

As we passed the house we tried to glance inside as best we could.

The were signs of struggle, with blood spattered all over the walls etc.

They would not let us get any closer.

After a few days the crime scene was lifted and the windows were darkened with soot so nobody could see inside.

But we did anyway, we could still peek inside in certain places. and, sure enough, it was a grizzly scene. Carupano was gone.

None of the adults around there or in school would speak about it and nobody told us the reasons for the murder.

To this day I still don't the who, what, or why or the reasons or the motives for it.

After a while they cleaned up the bloody mess and for a long time the house stood empty, abandoned, locked and boarded up.

As far as I remember nobody ever lived in that house after that, at least not until I left the Mount in July 1969.

Today, being older and less naive, and having been in the federal criminal investigative profession for over 25 years, I have a suspicion that the murder had probably to do with some kind of revenge, maybe from some parent.

From the way this guy acted towards children, and the sudden prohibition to see him or to even speak to him, maybe, just maybe, this old guy could have been a child predator (?),... but this is purely speculative on my part, after 40+ years.

So this mystery still really continues....

Attila Gyuris

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On Sat, 4/5/08, Attila GYURIS wrote:

Subject: Tax season USA!

Date: Saturday, April 5, 2:03

Dear brothers from the Mount:

I will regale you with those other Abbey School stories after the tax season is over...In case you are not aware, especially those of you living in the lands of tax heavens (except Canada and UK, of course), it is nearing the end of Tax Season here in the US (April 15 is the deadline).

I just found out that I still owe more taxes than I already paid last year!

Dammit, I don't remember the last time that happened. WTF?

I have no idea why,.. yet..but I will find out.

Every year I usually get a nice refund check from the IRS, (which of course the wife promptly spends)...but that is another story.

Anyway...I am now scrambling to find every little missed deduction I can find to minimise this tax impact because if I don't bring the owed amount down below a certain value I will have to pay a penalty and also interest on top of the taxes owed.....and I don't really want to do that.

So, if you will forgive me, but my priority right now is to dive head-first into a pile of receipts and paperwork, calculator in one hand, the computer keyboard in the other, a notepad in front of the computer, a pencil in my mouth and the phone cradled in my left ear talking with my accountant.

Of course, the wife is doing her nails right now...I can smell the acetone.

Yes,...I think I will be a little busy for a while here...I will get back to you all as soon as I am done with this shit.

RIGHT NOW I AM NOT HAVING ANY FUN!!!!!

Attila Gyuris

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Attila GYURIS wrote:

HA! .....Never got caught!

Thanks,

I have a few more.

One about a real murder of an old man called Carupano, in one of the houses going down to the sports field, and another one about hunting cats at night behind the Refectory with bows and arrows.

A.T.

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david decastro thecalypsobandit@hotmail.com

date 12 December 2008

Hi ladislao,

I remember Tom 3 legged dog.

I cant believe it was still alive in some of those other old boys days.

I left the mount in 1953.

"bandit".

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08MP0005REUNION2008, Manuel Prada, George Laquis and Norman Sabga

08DM5201REUNION2008, many UNKNOWNS

58IF0020IFAGRP, Fr. Cuthbert and group.

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